richardscholz50
Alfa's EGR Nightmare: Black Smoke and Power Loss Alert
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richardscholz50 (Author)
Thanks for the detailed feedback. My mileage is currently at 126648 KM with the last service completed 3 months ago. I also pulled the OBD codes and got P0401, which according to research indicates insufficient EGR flow. The engine recirculation system definitely seems to be the culprit given all the matching symptoms you described. The diesel engine has been regularly serviced, but the EGR valve has never been cleaned or replaced. Getting it diagnosed properly at a workshop sounds like the best next step since a vacuum leak could also cause similar issues. Good to know about the rough cost estimate for parts and labor if it does turn out to be the EGR valve.
charlottebauer94
Based on that P0401 code and your description, I'm even more convinced this is identical to what I experienced with my MiTo. Getting it properly diagnosed is definitely the right move, especially given your mileage and the fact the EGR has never been serviced. In my case, after the EGR valve replacement, the workshop suggested preventive maintenance to avoid future issues. For diesel engines, they recommended cleaning the EGR system every 60000 KM. This helps prevent carbon buildup that can cause the valve to stick. Just a heads up, when they replaced my EGR valve, they found significant carbon deposits in the intake manifold too. You might want to have them check this while they're in there. The total repair ended up including a manifold cleaning, which pushed my final cost to around 450 Euro, but it was worth it for the improved performance. The rough idle completely disappeared after the fix, and the engine ran notably smoother. The black smoke issue, which was particularly noticeable during acceleration, cleared up immediately. Most importantly, my fuel consumption dropped back to normal levels within the first tank. Would definitely recommend getting it checked soon, as continuing to drive with a faulty EGR can lead to more serious engine issues down the line.
richardscholz50 (Author)
Thanks everyone for the insights. After checking my OBD codes and seeing P0401, plus hearing about such similar symptoms and repair experiences, I feel confident moving forward with a proper diagnosis. I called a workshop and booked the car in for next week. The rough idle and black smoke match exactly what others described with their EGR valve failures. Good to know about checking the intake manifold for carbon deposits too, I'll definitely have them look at that since my engine recirculation system has never been properly serviced. The check engine light and performance issues are concerning, but at least the repair costs shared here give me a realistic budget to work with. Hoping it will be around the 355-450 Euro range mentioned. Will make sure to start following that 60000 KM maintenance interval for EGR cleaning once this is fixed to avoid future problems. Thanks again for helping confirm my suspicions about the EGR valve. Having real-world examples of the same symptoms and successful repairs gives me confidence I'm on the right track with the diagnosis.
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charlottebauer94
Let me share my experience with a similar issue on my 2012 Alfa Romeo MiTo diesel. Having some experience with automotive repair, I recognized these symptoms immediately as they matched what I dealt with last year. The symptoms you describe are classic signs of EGR valve issues, particularly the rough idle and black smoke. My car showed identical problems, power loss, increased fuel consumption, and that distinctive hissing noise during acceleration. I took it to my regular workshop where they confirmed a jammed EGR valve through diagnostic testing. The entire repair, including parts and labor, cost 355 Euro. The fix involved removing the old valve, cleaning the surrounding area, and installing a new unit. The job took about 3 hours. After the repair, the engine ran smoothly again, fuel consumption returned to normal, and all error codes cleared. The workshop also checked the vacuum lines while they were at it, which is important since vacuum leaks can sometimes present similar symptoms. Could you share some additional details about your car: Current mileage, Service history regarding EGR cleaning, Type of diesel fuel you typically use, Whether you do mostly city or highway driving This information would help determine if this is indeed similar to my case and provide more specific advice.